11 Employer FAQs (No. 5): Is there any difference between light duty and reasonable accommodation?

Over the next 7 business days, I'll have a series of short posts addressing common questions that employers have about the law. If there is an "FAQ" that you would like for me to address, please let me know in the comments box.

I may also have more in-depth postings as circumstances warrant.

Employer FAQ No. 5: Is there any difference between light duty and reasonable accommodation?

Most of the time, yes. Light duty is usually given in the context of a workers' compensation injury. It's often "make work" and provided to facilitateFAQ Round 5.jpg recovery, and it's usually offered for a finite period of time. Most importantly, it's completely optional for the employer (although workers' comp carriers don't see it that way).

Reasonable accommodation is required under the Americans with Disabilities Act to allow an individual with a disability to perform the essential functions of the job. It should be "real work with adjustments." Of course, it can also include reassignment to another vacant position involving real work, part-time status, or a medical leave, or a million other things. The obligation to make reasonable accommodation lasts as long as the employee can perform the essential functions of the job with one, and the accommodation made may have to change over time as the employee's condition and needs change.

Light duty can be a form of reasonable accommodation. If an employer offers light duty for workers' compensation injuries, it might have to offer light duty on the same basis to employees with disabilities. For this reason, from an ADA standpoint, employers may want to consider placing a strict time limit on "make-work" light duty (for example, a cutoff after 90 days). However, workers' compensation carriers generally prefer that light duty be offered for a much longer period.

FAQ No. 1: What exactly is this "interactive process" we hear so much about?

FAQ No. 2: "What does 'right to work' mean?"

FAQ No. 3: When do I have to start saving electronic evidence?

FAQ No. 4: Should I offer harassment training to rank-and-file employees? Isn't that just asking for trouble? 

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11 Employer FAQs: (No. 4): Should I offer harassment training to rank-and-file employees? Isn't that just asking for trouble?

Over the next 8 business days, I'll have a series of short posts addressing common questions that employers have about the law. If there is an "FAQ" that you would like for me to address, please let me know in the comments box.

I may also have more in-depth postings as circumstances warrant.

Employer FAQ No. 4: Should I offer harassment training to rank-and-file employees? Isn't that just asking for trouble?

The answers are Yes, please!, and No, you are not asking for trouble. Many employers do not require their non-management employees to undergo harassment training. Sometimes the expense is a deterrent. Sometimes employers are afraid that harassment training will just give non-management employees "ideas." But it's a good idea to offer it so that

*You can be sure your employees will know how to behave at work. FAQ Round 4.jpg

*You can be sure your employees will know what to do if they feel that they, or someone they work with, are being victimized.

*Inappropriate behavior will be reported (and, it is hoped, remedied) before the situation is too far gone.

*You will look good to the EEOC, the plaintiff's bar, and the courts for having been such a conscientious employer.  Te-he.

Harassment training for regular employees need not be extensive, and the less "legalese," the better. An appropriate length of time is about 45 minutes, which should give you plenty of time to cover what your employees need to know:

*Which types of behavior can get them into trouble.

*What to do if they feel that they are being harassed.

*What to do if they believe that another employee is being harassed.

*That they cannot be retaliated against for making a good-faith report of harassment.

(Management training should cover all of these topics but also the manager's legal and policy obligations  when he or she becomes aware of alleged harassment, or should have known about it. This added component normally means that management training takes more time.)

FAQ No. 1: What exactly is this "interactive process" we hear so much about?

FAQ No. 2: "What does 'right to work' mean?"

FAQ No. 3: When do I have to start saving electronic evidence?

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11 Employer FAQs (No. 3): When do I have to start saving electronic evidence?

Over the next 9 business days, I'll have a series of short posts addressing common questions that employers have about the law. If there is an "FAQ" that you would like for me to address, please let me know in the comments box.

I may also have more in-depth postings as circumstances warrant.

Employer FAQ No. 3: When do I have to start saving electronic evidence?FAQ Round 3.jpg

You should start preserving electronic documents (emails, Word and Excel files, Power Point shows, etc.), as well as text messages, voice mail, and any other relevant evidence, as soon as the first of the following occurs:

*You have a credible threat of legal action (for example, a letter from an attorney with a draft complaint attached).

*An administrative complaint or charge, such as a discrimination charge with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, is filed against you.

*You are sued.

Of course, your normal document retention policy should require preservation of electronic and paper material, as well as photographs, drawings, recordings and videos, and anything else I've forgotten to mention specifically, for at least the longest applicable statute of limitations. The length of time will vary from state to state, but it is normally four years after termination of employment at a minimum. A "litigation hold," in which you preserve evidence because of actual or threatened litigation, extends this "default" retention period.

OK, so say I'm in a lawsuit. How long does the litigation hold have to stay in place? The hold should stay in place until the matter is absolutely, finally concluded with no further recourse by the parties. Normally, the litigation hold can be lifted when any one of the following occurs:

*The case is settled.

*The losing party has exhausted all of his appeal rights.

*The losing party has let the deadline for an appeal expire.

FAQ No. 1: What exactly is this "interactive process" we hear so much about?

FAQ No. 2: "What does 'right to work' mean?"

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11 Employer FAQs: (No. 2) "What does 'right to work' mean?"

Over the next 10 business days, I'll have a series of short posts addressing common questions that employers have about the law. If there is an "FAQ" that you would like for me to address, please let me know in the comments box.

I may also have more in-depth postings as circumstances warrant.FAQ Round 2.jpg

Employer FAQ No. 2: "What does 'right to work' mean?"

As I've said in a previous post, "right to work" is not a synonym for "employment at will." A "right-to-work" state is one in which employees may not be required to join unions or pay union dues as a condition of employment.

The Labor Management Relations Act, enacted in 1947 to amend the National Labor Relations Act, outlawed the "closed shop" (in which union membership was required as a condition of hire) but allowed the "union shop," in which an employee did not have to be a member of a union upon hire but had to join within a set period after hire or, at least, pay union dues. The LMRA also gave states the right to enact "right-to-work" statutes, which made even union shops illegal. According to the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, 22 states (primarily in the South and Middle West) have enacted right-to-work laws. Most states in the Northeast, the Upper Midwest, and the far West (including Alaska and Hawaii) allow union shops.

(Even in a union shop, an employee who doesn't belong to the union may be allowed to withhold a portion of his union dues under certain circumstances.)

So, then, tell me again what "employment at will" means? "Employment at will" means that either the employee or the employer may terminate the employment relationship at any time and for any reason that is not unlawful. Almost every state has employment at will as its "default" rule, assuming there isn't another applicable law that might protect the employee. (But most states have scads of exceptions, so don't be too confident.)

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11 Employer FAQs: (No. 1) What exactly is this "interactive process" we hear so much about?

Over the next 11 business days, I'll have a series of short posts addressing common questions that employers have about the law. If there is an "FAQ" that you would like for me to address, please let me know in the comments box.

I may also have more in-depth postings as circumstances warrant.FAQ Round 1.jpg

Employer FAQ No. 1: "What exactly is the interactive process?"

The quick answer is this: The "interactive process" is simply an employer's sitting down with an employee who needs a reasonable accommodation and discussing options, directly with the employee. The "sit-down" can be a literal in-person meeting, or it can be done through phone calls, letters, or emails -- the main point is that it should be directly between the employer representative and the employee.

(In-person is obviously preferable but may not be possible with an employee who is on a medical leave, or who works in a remote location.)

The Americans with Disabilities Act requires that employers make reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities. (And, as we all know by now, thanks to the ADA Amendments Act, just about everybody who claims to have a disability actually has one.)

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which enforces the ADA, strongly recommends that you communicate directly with employees who need reasonable accommodations. Many employers spend time with their physicians, nursing staff, and with the employee's managers and supervisors, in assessing reasonable accommodation requests but neglect to discuss them directly with the employee seeking the accommodation. *head slap!*

In some jurisdictions, failure to engage in the interactive process is, in itself, a violation of the ADA. But even in jurisdictions that are less severe, an employer will be liable for failure to make reasonable accommodations if there was an effective accommodation that would have come to light if the employer had held the "sit-down" with the employee. In other words, in those jurisdictions the rule is "no harm, no foul," but if there is "harm" that could have been avoided through the sit-down, the employer has to suffer the consequences.

So, no matter where you are, having the sit-down, a.k.a. "engaging in the interactive process," is very important.

And, I'm glad to say, this isn't even a complete "negative" for employers. There are a number of reasons why an employer should welcome the ADA sit-down:

*The employee may suggest an accommodation that is easier and less expensive or disruptive than the accommodations that the employer had in mind.

*It's good for morale. The employee will feel much more warm and fuzzy about an employer who actually takes the time to have an in-person discussion about her need for accommodation. And if she feels that you actually care about her, she is much less likely to pursue legal action.

*In the case of employees with severe conditions, the employee may frankly admit that no reasonable accommodation is possible. (I have actually had this happen a number of times.) Of course, that admission will be extremely helpful to the employer later on in defending a charge or lawsuit. (Yes, I've had people admit that no accommodation was possible and then file an EEOC charge alleging failure to accommodate - go figure! But we've always won.)

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It appears that blog award season is upon us!

We are very honored that Employment & Labor Insider has been included as a Labor & Employment Nominee in the LexisNexis Best 25 Blogs 2011. Mike Maslanka's Texas Lawyer/Work Matters blog is also a nominee (congratulations and best wishes, Mike!).

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Constangy attorneys and staff are eligible to vote in this contest, and you can vote for more than one blog. The deadline to vote is September 12. (Don't worry - I'll keep reminding you!)

Also, as I mentioned last Friday, just a reminder that we would also be most grateful if you would nominate Employment & Labor Insider for the 2011 Blawg 100 list of the American Bar Association. (Blawg = blog + law . . . get it?) Attorneys and employees of Constangy are not eligible to vote for Constangy blogs in the ABA competition. Everyone else except our relatives can nominate this blog, Mike's blog, and our sister blog, Employee Benefits Unplugged, as well as any of the other outstanding legal blogs you read and enjoy.

The deadline to nominate blogs for the ABA list is September 9. (Don't worry - I'll keep reminding you!)

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Tweet freely! Employers get some guidance about social media

Texting.jpgDEAR READERS: If you enjoy this blog, we'd be most grateful if you would nominate it for the 2011 Blawg 100 list of the American Bar Association. (Blawg = blog + law . . . get it?) Attorneys and employees of Constangy are not eligible to vote. All entries must be submitted by September 9. While you're at it, please cast another vote for our sister blog, Employee Benefits Unplugged. Thank you for your support!

A number of employers, non-union as well as union, have been burned recently by the National Labor Relations Board for their social media policies, or the application of those policies.

The National Labor Relations Board issued yesterday a memorandum summarizing its findings on social media cases from the past year. The memo is well worth a read, and provides helpful guidance on the Board's position.

First -- for you non-union folks, a quick summary of "protected concerted activity." The National Labor Relations Act protects even non-union employees who act together in matters related to the terms and conditions of their employment. This can include group activity (a "group" is defined as more than one employee), or even the activity of a single employee, if the employee is acting on behalf of a "group" or preparing for "group" action.

For example, in an employee meeting, two employees may complain that the company is scheduling too much overtime and that it's hindering their safe performance of the job. This is "protected concerted activity," and it would generally be unlawful for the employer to take action against the employees because they raised these concerns.

Protected concerted activity has become a big concern, thanks to the internet and social media, which make it so much easier for employees to complain "in concert," and for employers to find out about it. Anti-employer rants on Facebook, Twitter, and personal blogs are not uncommon. If your gut reaction to this is the same as my gut reaction, you are thinking, "Why in the world can't I fire an employee who calls me a 'scumbag' or an 'as**ole' on the internet?"

Because it may be "protected concerted activity," that's why.

Here is a quickie reference to the guidance provided by the NLRB. As I said, reading the full memo will be well worth your time. The memorandum also contains guidance for employers on developing social media policies that will pass legal muster.

PROTECTED:

*Employee of non-profit was scheduled for a meeting with her executive director to discuss a dispute about her job performance. She posted about it on Facebook and got feedback from her co-workers.

*Emergency medical technician was asked by her supervisor to respond to customer complaint and was denied a request for union representation. EMT posted negative comments about her supervisor on Facebook, received responses from her co-workers, and called her supervisor a "scumbag."

*Car salesman posted on Facebook photos and criticism of food offered by dealership at sales event, saying that food was too chintzy for their clientele and would adversely affect sales commissions. Co-workers commented their agreement.

*Restaurant employees posted on Facebook comments about employer's allegedly improper tax withholding practices, and one employee said employer was "[s]uch an as**ole."

NOT PROTECTED:

*Newspaper reporter tweeted (on Twitter, duh) criticisms of his copy editors and was instructed to stop it. He did, but he continued to tweet about local homicides and sexually oriented topics. Finally, he tweeted a criticism of a local television station, drawing a complaint from the TV station to the newspaper. Presumably the criticisms of the copy editors might have been protected, but there was no indication that the newspaper had terminated him for that. The other tweets were not about terms and conditions of his employment, and he didn't seek to involve other employees.

*Bartender griped to a relative on Facebook about employer's tipping policy, calling customers "rednecks," and saying he hoped they would choke on glass as they drove home drunk. 

*Employee criticized employer on Facebook wall of her Senator but no one else, and was not seeking to involve other employees.

*Employee who worked in program for people with mental health problems posted on Facebook about alleged mental illnesses of the clients, saying that it felt "spooky" being alone in mental institution, that a client "was cracking her up," and making similar comments. The only "friends" who responded were not co-workers.

*Retail employee posted on Facebook about management "tyranny" and called his assistant manager an obscene name, and said that a lot of employees were ready to quit. Although he received generally supportive comments from co-workers (like "hang in there"), the Board's regional office found that it was an "individual gripe."

NOT PROTECTED, AND ILLEGAL:

*Union business agent and three organizers went to worksite of non-union employer and began interrogating workers as to whether they were legally authorized to work in the United States, and threatening to call immigration and have the employees deported. One of the union representatives videotaped the event, and an edited version was posted on YouTube and Facebook. The regional office found that the Union unlawfully interfered with the employees' rights by interrogation, threats, and coercion, and also interfered with the rights of other employees who might have seen the video on the internet.

. . . AND IN OTHER NEWS . . .

EEOC office issues directive on preservation of electronic evidence. The St. Louis office of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is issuing written instructions to companies about the preservation of electronic evidence. We don't know whether other EEOC offices are doing this. On one hand, it is not a bad idea for the Commission to remind employers of their obligations in this area and may prevent them from getting into trouble with a spoliation instruction later. On the other hand, will this just give the EEOC one more weapon against employers?

He may have a superior legal mind, but he has a fool for a client. The ABA Journal reported this week that a first-year associate who was fired from his law firm job for sending an all-attorney email touting his "superior legal mind" (and related "ego" issues) is now suing his ex-firm for $77 million. Not surprisingly, he is representing himself. Pretty big case for a first-year going solo . . . one third of $77 million is, what, a little more than $25 million?

My head is spinning so fast, I feel like I'm Linda Blair. (Or, "Keepin' up is hard to do.") Remember Ricci v. DeStefano, in which the U.S. Supreme Court said that the city of New Haven, Connecticut, could not throw out the results of a firefighter promotion exam because of a racial disparity in the results? After that decision, the city complied and promoted the white guys (and one Hispanic guy), and got dismissal of a lawsuit filed by some African-American firefighters who contended that the test had a racially disparate impact. The trial court threw out the black firefighters' lawsuit on the ground that the town was doing what it had to do to comply with Ricci. Now, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (which handles appeals from federal courts in Connecticut, New York, and Vermont) has vacated the dismissal -- allowing the black firefighters' lawsuit to proceed, at least for now. Poor New Haven is damned no matter what it does.

Check us out! Employment & Labor Insider was included in the August Employment Law Blog Carnival, hosted by Jon Hyman (scroll down to "Say you're sorry when you hurt somebody," but read the other fine posts, too).

To guarantee an employment lawsuit, just follow these five "worst practices"

Devil.jpgIt's not just London that is suffering from unrest these days -- there is reason to believe that American workplaces are far from heaven, too, even for those who are still fortunate enough to be employed.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported that approximately 75 percent of departing employees would not recommend their former employers to others looking for a job, almost a 100 percent increase over the "disgruntlement index" from 2008.

Meanwhile, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission received more than 99 thousand charges in 2010, an increase of approximately 6,000 since the prior year. No telling what the numbers will be for 2011. My guess is "atrocious."

Want to guarantee you'll be sued, even if you're 100 percent in compliance with the law? Here are five employer "worst practices":

1. "They can have my unemployment when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand." Be sure to fight every unemployment claim filed by every terminated employee. OK, maybe you can make an exception for those who are caught up in a reduction in force, but that's it. It's good to make your ex-employee feel like he's backed into a corner. And if the fight is worth fighting at all, it should be a fight to the death. If you lose the unemployment case at the hearing stage, appeal it as far as you can go -- that will help your ex-employee learn to do better at his next job.

2. The EEOC is offering to mediate? So what? Don't give those bureaucrats the satisfaction! They'll just be pushing their agenda and letting this undeserving ex-employee tell you to your face why her feelings are hurt and take what little money she can weasel out of you. Sure, occasionally she'll settle for no money at all, and the charge will be dismissed without even a position statement, and you can get a full release of claims in exchange, but you're 100 percent in the right, so you don't need it. You're going to win! It's a matter of principle -- you'd rather pay your lawyers to defend you in court for the next two or three years than pay a nickel to this bimbo. 

3. If an employee can't perform the essential functions of the job* because of medical problems, then tough darts. The ADA says they're out of luck. Heck, even the ADAAA does. So what if the Obama EEOC has made disability discrimination enforcement a top priority? You're on rock-solid ground. Don't lift a finger to help your sick or injured employee qualify for short-term or long-term disability, or for Social Security disability -- that's his problem. It's not under your control, anyway.

*With or without a reasonable accommodation, of course. If the employee can perform the essential functions with a reasonable accommodation, then that would have to be offered.

4. Never let 'em "quit." If you're firing an employee, be sure that the record clearly reflects that she was fired. In disgrace, preferably. Whatever you do, don't offer her an opportunity to save face and "resign." A forced resignation won't be worth a darn in court anyway because they'll treat it as a "constructive discharge." Better to just let the chips fall where they may. If that means she'll have to spend at least six more months looking for another job (and turning to the EEOC in desperation before her charge-filing period runs out), so be it. What doesn't kill her will make her stronger on her next job.

5. Whatever you do, don't offer severance unless it's a RIF. Sure, you normally get a full release of claims when you offer severance, but why pay if you don't have to? You haven't done anything wrong -- your ex-employee has. Save your money. You can use it to pay your lawyers after he sues you. (You may need a little more.)

Finally, don't forget to let your boss know what you have done. He or she will admire your principles and will think the risk of litigation and legal fees were, like, totally worth it. I bet you'll get a promotion. 

5 egregious errors that endanger employment investigations

Sherlock silhouette.jpgEarlier this summer, in writing about reference information for bad employees (I call them "the Axis of Evil"), I mentioned employment investigations, noting that this was a topic for another post. Well, today is the day. Now that the Supreme Court has officially recognized "cat's paw" liability for employers whose decisions are tainted by an individual with an unlawful motive, it is more important than ever for employers to conduct workplace investigations that are above reproach.

And because it's more fun to talk about mistakes than what people do well, I'm going to focus on five workplace investigation errors that I see regularly.

Error No. 1. The man* who knew too much. This is a very common mistake when the investigator is someone from the same worksite as the individuals involved, and knows the "cast of characters." "TMI" is not a good thing. Hear me out. The problem is that someone who already knows the cast of characters can have a very difficult time keeping an open mind.

*The masculine shall be deemed to include the feminine, and vice versa.

Ideally, a workplace investigation will be done by someone from outside, who can investigate objectively. But if the investigation absolutely must be done by someone who knows everyone involved, the investigator should keep in mind the cliche, "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day." Just because the complaining employee is a known drama queen and the accused is a thrice-decorated war hero who rescues little kitties from the tops of trees and gives all of his money to the poor (or the complaining employee is a lovable Sunday school teacher who drives only 15 miles a week, and the accused is Tiger Woods) it is possible that, in this case, just this once, the roles are reversed. OK, probably not, but at least as an investigator you should keep that attitude to the best of your ability. You can turn your brain back on when it's time to assess your evidence and determine what really happened.

Error No. 2. Dangling leads. I cannot tell you how many times I've been asked to review an employer's investigation, and the notes say, "Joe didn't see Bill make a pass at Mary, but he said that we should talk to Susan, who works in the same area and might have seen something." I scour through the rest of the notes to find the interview of Susan, to no avail. The reason? Nobody followed up on Joe's suggestion that Susan be interviewed. Fortunately, we usually catch this type of thing while there's still time to go back to Susan and find out what, if anything, she knows. But companies shouldn't be having to waste precious legal fees hiring lawyers to point out such obvious omissions to them. (Save us for the hard stuff!) Investigators need to follow all leads provided by the accuser, the accused, and the witnesses. If they don't, and if the mistake isn't corrected before there is an EEOC charge or lawsuit, you can bet the government/plaintiff's lawyer will use the lack of follow-up to its/his/her advantage.

Error No. 3:  Accepting conclusions as "facts." Another mistake I see all the time. Investigator asks, "Is Tifanyea sexually harassing the men she works with?" Amber replies, "I feel that Tifanyea is very inappropriate with the guys." Or my personal favorite: "Oh, you know, Tifanyea is Tifanyea." These are not facts. These are conclusions, and they don't tell you anything. A good investigator will say, "Amber, tell me what Tifanyea does with the guys that you consider inappropriate," or  "Tell me what you mean when you say Tifanyea is Tifanyea." If the investigator doesn't do it, you can be sure that the EEOC or a plaintiff's lawyer will.

This, by contrast, is a factual statement: "Yesterday, I overheard Tifanyea telling Dave that his jeans really made his butt look cute. Dave turned bright red and walked away." Or this: "Every day, Tifanyea is talking about how 'hot' Steve is. Steve never says anything to her, but he's told me several times that he is uncomfortable and tries to avoid her."

See the difference? Now you have some information! 

Error No. 4: "You don't wanta get mixed up with a guy like me, Pee-wee. I'm a loner. A rebel." And you know those "Do not remove under penalty of law" tags they put on mattresses? Well, I cut one off! (Sorry - I got carried away.) In all cases, and especially if the investigation is conducted by the man* who knew too much (see Error No. 1), someone else ought to review the findings of the investigator to make sure that all leads have been followed (see Error No. 2) and that conclusory statements have been supported by facts (see Error No. 3), and that there is adequate factual support for the preliminary conclusion of the investigation. The reviewer should also assist in determining what really happened and what the appropriate action should be. The reviewer ideally should be an in-house attorney, a corporate-level Human Resources professional, or an outside attorney, preferably with expertise in employment law. He or she should also be someone who is not personally involved with the cast of characters, or only minimally involved. 

Error No. 5: "We will keep everything you say strictly confidential. Except, of course, when we talk about it." It is impossible to keep an investigation completely confidential. You cannot interview accused parties or witnesses without disclosing at least some of the reason for asking the questions. If you tell an employee that everything will be kept confidential, and then she finds out that you've been talking, she is rightfully going to be ticked off at you. Better to say, "We will keep everything that you say as confidential as we can, but of course we may have to talk about this with other people involved in the investigation. I can assure you that we will not discuss this with anyone who doesn't have a legitimate need to know." Employees are not stupid. They will understand and will appreciate your honesty.